I got myself these pants in CADPAT camo (M size) about half a year ago and I think they are pretty good but are not perfect as I need them to be longer (size 34 to be exact) which is unfortunately unavailable. Another problem I found out about are those velcro straps for kneepads as they are directly on the back side of my knees and I find it quite uncomfortable when tightened. Apart from those negatives, the pants are of nice quality. I especially like the dyed elastic parts.